This article presents an interview with Patrick Sommers, president of reference/information publisher "Gale" (part of Cengage Learning). Sommers took the helm in October 2007, after running system vendor Sirsi beginning in 2001 and engineering both the 2005 merger with Dynix and the 2007 sale of the newly created SirsiDynix to Vista Equity Partners. Those moves are still reverberating in the library community. Joining Sommers is John Barnes, who heads strategic marketing and business development. Gale itself is owned currently by private equity firms Apax Partners and OMERS Capital Partners, which appear to be investing in new platforms and products. Sommers's move to Gale from Sirsi is a better fit than might be expected. In an interview, Sommers and Barnes talk about the future of the legacy reference publisher.