This article explores the delivery and pedagogy of initial ministerial training for lay and ordained candidates in the Church in Wales by its training arm, the St. Padarn's Institute. I discuss how logistical challenges force us into a more pragmatic approach where practical considerations are as influential as philosophical and pedagogical commitments. The close relationship between the national church and ourselves and a "reflective practice" and "practical wisdom" approach enables us to be responsive and flexible to training needs. Although wary of geographical locations being used as shorthand theoretical terms for pedagogies (e.g., Athens, Berlin), I describe our approach as Athens character formation but ultimately locate our pedagogy (following Cronshaw) within the lived experience and landscape of Wales.